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M95D 16 hours ago [-]
Want to know the real tragedy here? Those deaths could be prevented if the hospital had better software and procedures. Like some other people noticed, malaria is rare in Germany. Doctors would not think of this diagnosis until it's too late.
But...
Malaria can be detected by modern hematology automated analyzers. I'm talking about ordinary hematology analyzers, not the ones specialized for malaria. All hospitals do at least one CBC+DIFF for all patients. If anyone cares to look at the warning flags and scattergrams [1], they could have seen that something's wrong, do a blood smear and confirm malaria in 30 minutes. It is a bit difficult, to be honest. Only a lab doc/tech would know how to interpret a scattergram, and some of the flags are extremely unreliable (not iRBC), but that doesn't mean they can be simply ignored.
Unfortunately, in most labs, doctors who check and validate results, do that from the lab software app, not directly from the analyzer, and - devs, take notes! - most hospital/laboratory software I saw (and I saw many) ignore all flags and graphics send by the analyzers. They just take the numbers and that's it. When doctors look at a report, they don't see flags or scattergrams, just the numbers. Can't even tell if the numbers are reliable or not. And this is how malaria diagnosis, and lots of others, are missed.
Yep. The system in general is great for treatment, but fails for diagnosis. It takes them a long time to diagnose, sometimes years. But once they manage to do it, then they bring in all the heavy artillery and the health care machine works at it's best.
Sadly, it's often too late. Looks to be the case here, appears clearly a diagnosis delay. It does not take much for a skilled system to connect "airport worker" and the right lab readings together.
I can't imagine what these people would have gone through. They would have been given the "just a flu" treatment for some days, and then waited many more days for appointments. RIP.
PS: What you've said is pretty eye opening! This would amplify a lot of the diagnosis problems.
M95D 1 hours ago [-]
That's because lots of investment money go in treatments, not diagnosis. Diagnosed patients are captive consumers. They will pay to get better.
AI has the potential to help a lot with diagnosis, but considering that many relevant data don't even enter the system, I have doubts about how effective it could be. On the other hand, I would not trust a cloud AI (or cloud in general) to process my medical data. The temptation to abuse that access for marketing, profiling, insurance prices, etc. would be irresistible.
Not in my experience. I have only flown international ten times or so in the past 20yrs but I have never seen that when returning to Aus.
jemmyw 6 hours ago [-]
I was interested in this because it happened the last time I returned to NZ, but I hadn't seen it before. There are several approved methods and it depends on the airline. The method that doesn't involve spraying with you onboard is more expensive so tends to be used by budget airlines, and also airlines who might rotate their planes and crew around routes more often because it is a treatment that lasts for weeks.
Probably depends on where the plane is coming from. Source: me who just returned from Europe last week, no spraying. And have traveled internationally several times in the last few years and also no spraying.
robaato 7 hours ago [-]
From the link:
"Benefits of entering a voluntary formal arrangement include:
* disinsection methods are undertaken while passengers are not on the aircraft."
Used to see someone wandering down the aisles with spray cans on arrival - but not on the last several trips to Oz.
aaron695 11 hours ago [-]
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luciandan 22 hours ago [-]
They do but chances are it's not 100% effective.
zbjornson 21 hours ago [-]
Rather, "there is no evidence to show that using insecticide to kill mosquitoes inside aircraft cabins is effective in preventing introduction and spread of mosquito-borne diseases."
Not sure where the idea came from that spraying the cabin aisle would penetrate the luggage bins, cargo hold, under the seats, or really anywhere.
nkmnz 21 hours ago [-]
1. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
2. Risk is convex, so every risk increase by measures not taken is multiplicative, not additive.
The real question must be: does the disinfection do more harm than it provides reduction of risk.
xelxebar 17 hours ago [-]
> 2. Risk is convex, so every risk increase by measures not taken is multiplicative, not additive.
Wait. Is this true? f(x) = x^2 is convex but f(x+d) = f(x) + O(x). Are you saying that human risk assessment is estimated to be exponential?
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gambiting 20 hours ago [-]
They did that on our take off from Naples just a month ago, they said it's against insects.
kayo_20211030 21 hours ago [-]
It used to happen in NZ too. I don't know if it still does.
PlunderBunny 20 hours ago [-]
As a kid (in the early 70s) I remember the air hostesses walking down the isles with a spray can. They don’t do that any more, but I wonder if or why they don’t add lower concentrations of the aerosol to the air conditioning at the end of the flight.
dghlsakjg 20 hours ago [-]
You could spend tens or hundreds of millions building an automatic system (certification for aircraft is not cheap or easy) or just hand the flight attendant a can of spray.
PlunderBunny 20 hours ago [-]
Sure, but I can imagine the more expensive airlines worrying that the ‘optics’ of spraying your passengers down aren’t great (to be clear - I’m not objecting and I’d rather they do it). I wasn’t suggesting they retrofit to existing aircraft of the period, but rather just build it in as they design the next generation airflow system. Or do you think it would still be way too expensive even then?
rogerrogerr 20 hours ago [-]
Adding systems to aircraft, whether retrofit or new design, is a horrifically complex and expensive thing.
What kind of disinfectant is used? How is it distributed? Does it do something bad at -80 degrees C? At +80 C? If it freezes, what happens? What if someone loads the wrong thing into the disinfectant bucket? Like fuel? Or oil? Where do we put the switch to isolate the cockpit from the disinfectant? Where does flipping that isolation switch go in the unknown-fume-event checklist?
What if it catches fire? It's not enough to say it can't catch fire, you must assume it will catch fire. The fire suppression system has to be aware of it. What if the fire suppression system erroneously thinks the disinfectant system is on fire? What if it was erroneously thought to be on fire, and then later _actually does catch fire_? How long can we fly with a flaming disinfectant system that someone in Terribadistan filled with kerosene?
You probably have more than one disinfectant module, probably attached to each pack. Is the plane "disinfected" if only one pack is operational? If your disinfectant module fails, does it bring the pack down with it? No? Now we have to certify the packs for both with-and-without disinfectant module operation.
dghlsakjg 3 hours ago [-]
Cockpit announcement: "The authorities here require us to have flight crew spray for mosquitos upon landing using aerosol cans before opening cabin doors. you will now see the attendants walk down the aisle spraying so we can unload you as soon as possible."
It would still be expensive for next gen too. Having to design an entire system that has never existed before that can operate under aerospace conditions is expensive as hell even before you get into certification. A sibling comment points out all of the design certification issues you need to think about
Havoc 22 hours ago [-]
Kinda wild. I spent most of my childhood a couple hours drive from a malaria region and never heard of anyone getting sick locally that hadn’t travelled that way. So multiple people in Germany seems surprising.
fweimer 21 hours ago [-]
Cases are infrequent, but not extremely unlikely. There's even a term for it, airport malaria:
I guess this can still happen, depends for each person. Some people have higher immunity for certain bugs.
catlikesshrimp 22 hours ago [-]
I live in a mosquito ladden region and some mosquitoe individuals ingest blood until they can no longer fly (they die) Many mosquitoe individuals feed until full, not necessarily from only one human.
Now, some people are more resistant to some diseases than others. Sickle cell anemia heterozygote humans can live with plasmodium alright.
What surprises me is that someone around an airport in Germany (urban area) actually died of malaria. Malaria causes intervals of very high fever which lead to hospitalization and treatment.
M_bara 21 hours ago [-]
Being a tropical disease makes it very unlikely and so a doctor will not even be considering it. By the time they’ve tried different therapies and start considering malaria, it’s too late. I’ve seen this happen to a couple of Africans who travel to Europe while gestation is ongoing and they’re dead 2 weeks later. As another thread said, it’s cheap to carry malaria meds when you travel, do it. If you start feeling offish - joint pain, fever, malaise, get a blood microscopic test for it and start the meds. Malaria is brutal
briandw 22 hours ago [-]
They didn’t mention the strain. My understanding is that there are 5 strains. P. malariae is common and not particularly deadly while. When i visited Africa, all of the locals had had malaria multiple times. P. falciparum is extremely nasty and can kill quickly.
mk89 21 hours ago [-]
It's the Malaria tropica according to [0]:
> Im Zusammenhang mit den bereits bekannten sechs Fällen von Malaria tropica bei Personen, die am Flughafen Frankfurt am Main tätig sind, sind zwei Erkrankte verstorben
And a quick search says that this is the most dangerous one. Of course it had to be...
Malaria tropica (the disease) maps 1:1 to Plasmodium falciparum (the parasite that causes this disease)
crossroadsguy 21 hours ago [-]
I had dengue once. Fever was something else! Since then I've been scared shitless that there are 3 other major variants remaining and if the next time is one of those 3 I am most probably cooked. There are no vaccines here yet either.
greenavocado 21 hours ago [-]
Is that the one where the degree of immunity is negative post infection
crossroadsguy 11 hours ago [-]
If you mean the specific strain then I do not know which one it was (I ). But yeah if I get bitten by another dengue strain then the immunity works against me. So (afaik; roughly speaking) I have ≈100% immunity against my strain and sort of negative immunity against the rest three.
I just looked up my test report from years ago and it just says NS1 rapid antigen test and that one doesn't find which of DENV-1(-2, -3, -4) it was.
wbl 21 hours ago [-]
Yup. But OP is now eligible for a vaccine!
crossroadsguy 11 hours ago [-]
I just looked up and my country approved its first dengue vaccine last month. Maybe I should enquire about it :D
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rikschennink 20 hours ago [-]
Got it as well a couple years ago, it was no joke. :/
Luckily we could get vaccinated a year later. If you’ve had it and catch another variant mortality rate jumps to 10%. But usually those variants don’t overlap, it’s region based.
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landgenoot 18 hours ago [-]
I think Qdenga was approved in India very recently.
UJ-FLD-ScrTr 22 hours ago [-]
Two months passed between the two deaths. This already happened once in Frankfurt in 2023, fortunately without fatalities.
I got malaria twice in Africa. First time bad, second time REAL bad. I thought about death a little.
There was a good story of a Dutchman living in Mali who got malaria a few times (everyone does). It’s manageable with the meds.
Anyway he flies home, then develops symptoms. Goes to hospital and they freak. Full hazmat suits, isolation, doctors visiting from all over because they’d never seen it. Guy ends up dying because they wouldn’t give him the meds, because they didn’t know if it was safe, or what the right thing to do was.
Moral of the story is that for anyone spending time in malaria zones, take the meds home with you. If you get symptomatic, take the meds and maybe not go to hospital in the developed world.
Meds I took was “coartem” and an injectable.
roncesvalles 21 hours ago [-]
I have a feeling this is exactly what happened in Frankfurt. It very glaringly points to some failure in the healthcare system.
Healthy working adults with access to healthcare don't just die of malaria. Two deaths means it's not some unique susceptibility in one individual either.
The more interesting investigation would be how the system let two people die of malaria, not how malaria got there.
codethief 20 hours ago [-]
> It very glaringly points to some failure in the healthcare system.
Does it? "Have you been near the equator recently?" is a rather common question that GPs ask when you go see them with high fever. Doctors in Germany are absolutely aware of malaria, given how much we like to travel to all those beautiful, but unfortunately malaria-ridden countries.
The only thing, of course, is: That question wouldn't have helped here. However, this[0] source says airport staff are made aware of the possibility of contracting malaria and are told to watch out for symptoms.
The irony is that Germany used to be a malaria ridden country.
RamblingCTO 5 hours ago [-]
I don't think so. The Frankfurt University Hospital is used to weird shit like Ebola. There is a fuck up somewhere in here, but I don't think it's this detail. Frankfurt had airport malaria before as well.
fma 22 hours ago [-]
Kind of similar to rabies. If you get bit by a rabid animal in an area with lots of rabies, the doctors know what to do and you get meds immediately for cheap.
In the US it's a few thousand dollars for the treatment.
mimischi 22 hours ago [-]
I thought anything in the US is ridiculous amounts of money, when it’s related to health/hospital.
matt_heimer 21 hours ago [-]
It's wildly inconsistent. Surgeries, hospitalizations and specialists are mostly ridiculous. You can find affordable general/nurse practitioners if you know where to look and what to ask for.
Call around and ask "What is your self cash pay cost?".
Most people don't know to ask that and if you don't speak the magic phrase then you get billed at the rate the office would normally charge insurance. Not all places have self pay discounts.
Some states have special programs for hospitals but they vary wildly by state and you have to know how to navigate that particular program and be very patient. Some are need based so if you are above a pretty low income threshold you won't qualify.
stefantalpalaru 20 hours ago [-]
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ipsod 22 hours ago [-]
It's really not, for common/minor issues. I use a little cash-pay clinic in a MCOL area and mostly spend <$100, never over $200, per visit. Also, my wife recently had some major dental work done, and it was about $350. All of this without getting insurance involved.
There are definitely ways to rack up big bills fast, though, just by being unlucky.
datsci_est_2015 21 hours ago [-]
> cash-pay clinic
I’ve never heard of this. Private practice? If so, count your blessings until they get hoovered up by PE and quadruple their prices overnight.
ipsod 21 hours ago [-]
Yeah, private practice.
kotaKat 20 hours ago [-]
It's not quite PE (yet); doctors are getting annoyed themselves at how healthcare is playing out. Picture things like electronically messaging your doctor now has convoluted billing behind each conversation now based on the level of effort the doctor has to put in. They're getting annoyed now that they've been bought out by hospital systems and been working underneath them for a while doing family practices and other healthcare services. The paychecks were good, but the red tape got annoying over the years.
So they exit the whole system and go to a direct "you pay me monthly for access" model. Hundred bucks a person or so per month, factor a ~25% discount for families. Doc gets to keep a cap on the limit of incoming patients to manage their own day pretty nicely while getting a recurring stream of cash paid direct to him.
Even better if your wife's also a doctor (hey, healthcare partners run together a lot!), you just band together, see 5-600 patients a month as a couple, and pull in a decent $million or so on a fairly light workload and selling extra things like GLP-1s and wellness programs for a year's work. Triple-points if you're doing this in rural America - that million might not be a lot to the big techies out there, but that's big bucks that go far in some really nice places tucked away in the trees and forests.
You still need insurance for the rest of the 'stuff' they don't do, but some of these DPCs are doing everything they can in house (like prescribing and dispensing generics at the office directly in a single visit to lower your extra out of pocket costs).
If you're on a high deductible healthcare plan with an HSA and an employer contributing healthily into it, these direct-patient-care clinics may be an attractive option if you're reasonably healthy and young.
s1artibartfast 19 hours ago [-]
It isn't a homogeneous experience, so you will get different stories. Most Americans get their healthcare provided by their employer, so their company determines what is covered and their financial exposure.
My United Healthcare plan limits my out of pocket expenses to $2,000 per year.
Like most Americans, "United Healthcare" is just the company that does the billing and adjudication. My Employer sets policy and pays for treatment at the end of the day.
tekla 20 hours ago [-]
It's not, you're being lied to.
datakan 22 hours ago [-]
You thought wrong
0x262d 22 hours ago [-]
How could two people die from it in Germany with modern medicine? Is malaria randomly fatal despite treatment, or did they not understand what the infection was or not seek treatment or something?
Tangurena2 21 hours ago [-]
> Globally in 2024, there were an estimated 282 million malaria cases and 610,000 malaria deaths in 80 countries
One question that gets asked is "have you traveled to another country?" When the answer is "no", then doctors no longer consider diseases that exist in other countries. So that is why they did not understand the parasitic infection until it was too late.
Some of the early symptoms resemble a bad cold.
The parasite that causes malaria (literally "bad air") can only survive in certain species of mosquitos. Those skeeters don't live in Germany. They used to live in the state I live in, but they were exterminated back in the 1950s & 1960s (thanks DDT!). And people from West Africa were naturally/genetically resistant, which was why slaves from that region were preferred over every other race in the southern US where malaria existed until the 1950s & 1960s. If you have 0 copies of the gene then you usually die (of malaria) before puberty. If you have 2 copies of the gene, then you die from sickle cell anemia (usually by your teen years). If you have 1 copy of that gene (another commenter used the term "heterozygote") then the parasite can't live in some of your red blood cells, so you survive to have children.
Germany never had it, and reported being malaria free in 1964. America, in 1970.
Malaria covered the entire eastern US (creeping into parts of Canada) and most of Europe in the 19th century.
stephenhuey 21 hours ago [-]
Some good info, but some kind of simplistic. I lived in Nigeria for the second half of my childhood in the 80s and 90s and got malaria several times. People come down with it all the time, and typically treat it, and you can recover without treatment also. Most people die from sickle cell anemia when young, but I know multiple outliers who have lived to middle age, and they might live longer yet.
It's easy to test for malaria, if you actually think to test for malaria. In the 90s, we used to hear wild stories from people we knew who would come down with malaria shortly after returning to the USA and doctors and nurses would freak out not knowing what to do about it, and the medication would be expensive to obtain, so the conventional wisdom was also to remember to take a few pills with you on the plane back to the USA!
It's sad but unsurprising that no one was able to treat these German workers in time. When I was a child, there was already talk of strains developing resistance, and this has gotten worse in the 21st century, and the airport workers caught the most deadly strain:
> It's sad but unsurprising that no one was able to treat these German workers in time.
Literally every pharmacy over here sells treatment against malaria – many have it in stock and even if they don't, they'll be able to get it for you within a few hours. Every major city (certainly every city with an airport where you could catch airport malaria) has a hospital with a department specifically for infectious and tropical diseases, where they'll happily take care of you. GPs ask you if you've been to the equator lately if you go see them with high fever. I'm not sure how a country where malaria is not common at all would be able to do any better?
Also, as I mentioned in another comment, airport staff are instructed to watch out for malaria symptoms precisely because airport malaria is a thing.
Something definitely went wrong here but from afar it surely doesn't look like a healthcare failure to me. Maybe the deceased stayed home, thinking they had caught a cold and would be able to sit it out?
blks 17 hours ago [-]
Somehow it still lead to two deaths. Maybe GPs didn’t ask/didn’t know about airport malaria, or airport workers were some subcontractors and never gotten instructed.
"It [the Robert Koch Institute] said laboratory tests to determine the source of the infections were not expected to be available for several weeks. [...] The [Robert Koch] institute said malaria in Germany almost exclusively affects long-haul travellers who were infected in malaria-endemic areas, and that malaria transmitted within a German airport is rare. 'The lack of a travel history can lead to a delayed diagnosis. A delayed diagnosis increases the risk of a severe course of the diseases,' the institute said in its epidemiological bulletin."
codethief 19 hours ago [-]
> laboratory tests to determine the source of the infections were not expected to be available for several weeks
Note that this about DNA tests & analysis to determine the origin of the malaria/the mosquitos, not about simple tests for the disease.
testing22321 22 hours ago [-]
Cerebral malaria is fatal with no treatment in many cases. For kids and elderly it’s fatal even with.
Likely this happened because they have no expertise and didn’t know what to do.
Imagine if you showed up in a hospital in the us with a sting from some super intense scorpion that only exists is some obscure part of the world. They’ll try to help, but likely can’t do much.
vezycash 22 hours ago [-]
Nigerian here, cerebral malaria is very curable. It's very common and people survive.
testing22321 20 hours ago [-]
Sorry I wasn’t more clear.
I meant with no treatment it is often fatal. Almost certainly do for kids and elderly with no treatment.
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Scoundreller 11 hours ago [-]
Similar story from an academic that developed symptoms upon return to the US. First hospital brushed him off. Second one, got the right infectious disease doctor/professor to diagnose and treat it. Professor had as many med students/residents as he could come by to see what someone with malaria looks like. "See this man? He has malaria, don't miss it" was burned into his mind by the end.
palijer 20 hours ago [-]
This is one of the reasons why diverse medical teams and having nurses/doctors/pharmacists etc from other countries is a great idea.
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bauruine 22 hours ago [-]
Doesn't the Netherlands have some sort of institute of tropical medicine which deals with exactly those cases?
Tangurena2 21 hours ago [-]
If the airport workers had travelled to another country, their doctors would have looked for tropical/travel diseases.
Usually, it is through shipping containers where unwanted insects cross borders. That's how murder hornets and flying cockroaches got into the US.
bauruine 21 hours ago [-]
I'm asking about the Dutchman story the parent wrote. I can hardly believe it tbh. Even if the Netherlands don't have specialized personel, Hamburg is just a 5 hour drive away and Antwerp even closer.
brokencipher 21 hours ago [-]
Maybe you're thinking about the The Institute of Tropical Medicine in Antwerp/Belgium?
bauruine 21 hours ago [-]
I was thinking about the Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute and assumed most western countries have something like that. The German Wikipedia article about "Tropeninstitut" mentions the KIT for the Netherlands [0] altough that article sounds way less about medicine than the Swiss one or the German Bernhard Nocht Institute for Tropical Medicine or the Belgian one you mentioned.
If you go to a Malaria zone, talk to your doctor to get Malarone and use it prophylactic (depending on the region)
pton_xd 22 hours ago [-]
Doxycycline can also be used. I took doxycycline monohydrate daily for a month and had no observable impact on my digestion, which surprised me.
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testing22321 22 hours ago [-]
I was there for years, you can’t take malarias that long.
hilariously 22 hours ago [-]
And some of them have Super powerful side effects - I had a 3 day violent psychotic break I have no memory of, but I did get to wake up strapped to a bed!
CoastalCoder 15 hours ago [-]
Wow! I wonder what the physiology of that was.
foobiekr 21 hours ago [-]
Malarone gave me insane almost-kindof-sortof waking dreams of concerning character. I have never had anything like that before or since.
codethief 20 hours ago [-]
Malarone? Interesting, because that's supposed to be the prophylactic therapy with the mildest side effects. I have taken it many times and have never had any, and – up until now – I had also never heard of anyone having some.
hilariously 18 hours ago [-]
My snap was also on Malarone.
testing22321 17 hours ago [-]
The US military used to prescribe larium to members for malaria prevention . That’s the one that is infamous for nasty dreams.
10% of all people who were on it now have permanent psychosis.
Oh yeah.
jeffrallen 20 hours ago [-]
I saw the same thing happen in Leeds. A friend came back to her public health program after Christmas in Zimbabwe. The NHS was dragging their feet, like, "oh, we need to get a specialists opinion before we can even draw blood, then it has to be sent to the school of tropical medicine, that will be a few days, etc". Her African friends (and a European friend that worked in Africa for MSF) had to explain malaria to the hospital and beg them to just get her started on an artemsin compound while they were wasting time wondering how to test for it.
morkalork 22 hours ago [-]
The author of the book Mother Nature is Trying to Kill You had a story like that; he managed to pick up a parasitic fly infection while abroad and had to convince health care workers to cut out the larvae from under his skin.
coryrc 20 hours ago [-]
Botfly. Don't cut, they dig deeper.
The proper solution is a thick layer of petroleum jelly over your skin. The larva has to come up to breathe eventually (~hours). Use tweezers and grab it. Gross, but perfectly safe.
codethief 20 hours ago [-]
There are great YouTube videos documenting this process btw. :-)
Could these mosquitoes lead to malaria becoming endemic in Germany?
ceejayoz 22 hours ago [-]
No. They only survive in tropical/subtropical regions.
A concerted effort to treat cases and reduce habitat can prevent it, too. The US wiped it out in the 50s; new cases largely come from travel.
anttihaapala 22 hours ago [-]
Malaria was endemic in Finland until the beginning of the 20th century, the people used to lived inside smoke-heated chimneyless log cabins together with animals, mosquitoes... and Plasmodium vivax...
ceejayoz 22 hours ago [-]
That's the "treat cases" element of the story.
No human cases means no reservoir for the spring's new mosquitos to draw from. It's why Florida's safe these days, despite the climate.
matherial 22 hours ago [-]
No. Malaria epidemics occurred in medieval Europe, both in warmer countries (Italy, Greece) and in France, Germany and England. It was also common in portions of the US until large-scale eradication efforts.
It's unlikely to become a problem again because the climate is not optimal and these countries are wealthy, have advanced healthcare systems, and can spray everything with DDT again if they feel like doing it.
toyg 21 hours ago [-]
Yes to everything but "the climate is not optimal". The climate was not optimal. I expect this year's weather in most of Europe must have been pretty spectacular for mosquitoes; if it becomes a regular occurrence, as scientists suggest, things might get pretty spicy. Places like Milan are already massive breeding grounds for the most aggressive types of mosquitoes.
chmod775 20 hours ago [-]
> Yes to everything but "the climate is not optimal". The climate was not optimal. I expect this year's weather in most of Europe must have been pretty spectacular for mosquitoes.
You'd think that, but anecdotally there was much fewer this year in Germany than previous years.
At least where I live most of the places where they'd have usually spawned (wetlands) have dried up and shrunk considerably. So really the hot weather made it a worse year for mosquitos.
sajithdilshan 20 hours ago [-]
I don’t think DDT works for the new strains of Malaria mosquitoes we have nowadays.
nerdsniper 22 hours ago [-]
USA wiped out malaria in the 50s using DDT which also made the California condor go extinct in the wild. During the 70s-90s DDT became illegal to use in most countries around the globe.
I’m not sure the USA would have been successful eradicating malaria without using DDT or something similar.
DDT caused the Bald Eagle population to drop from about 400,000 birds to just 47 nesting pairs.
the-grump 22 hours ago [-]
It's wild to watch old videos of DDT application and attitudes back then.
There were malaria epidemics in even quite temperate parts of Europe up to the mid 20th century, including Bavaria and even England, and it was endemic to parts of Italy and Greece. P. falciparum was found in bone samples of the Medicis.
Yes, I remember reading in Charles C. Mann's book 1493 an interesting chapter about how malaria was pretty common in preindustrial SE England, where it was known as "marsh fever" or "ague."
jmclnx 22 hours ago [-]
Sadly, maybe wait 5 to 10 decades then it could exist in many areas were it does not now.
Tangurena2 21 hours ago [-]
Only a few species of mosquitos can carry the parasite. None of them live in that part of Europe. The swamps around the city of Rome were historically infested with those skeeters which is why we use the Italian word for the disease (which means "bad air").
sajithdilshan 20 hours ago [-]
No, most probably the mosquitoes will not survive the winter. Besides, given enough effort, Malaria can be eradicated and even a poor tropical country like Sri Lanka has has done that where mosquitoes are quite common throughout the year
xattt 22 hours ago [-]
Malaria was endemic to the Deep South in the States up until the 1950s, at which point it was declared eradicated thanks to a miracle chemical called DDT. They should put that on everything (/s).
It is unlikely that malaria will establish itself, given that it gets cold and inhospitable to malaria-carrying mosquitos in Northern Europe. However, it is one of many things that could potentially be frog-boiled into existence in northern latitudes as a result of climate change.
I live in an area where mosquitos were unbearable this year. You couldn’t do outdoor activities without a mosquito net. It’s bad enough but I don’t want to imagine what it would be like if the threat of mosquito-borne illness was layered on.
shevy-java 22 hours ago [-]
I can not say anything about this incident, but what I have noticed
in the last some years is that mosquitos have become much more annoying
even in larger cities of mediate temperature. That has not been the case
say 30 years up to 10 years ago or so, give or take. The range of mosquito
attacks has definitely increased in every axis. Kind of almost miniature
mosquitos too - really small, like barely 0.5 cm at max in length or perhaps
0.6 cm, but annoying to no ends and very hungry for blood. One can speculate
but I think the increased temperature range induced this for the most part.
roncesvalles 21 hours ago [-]
I'm pretty sure mosquito populations in India have been evolving in response to those electrified tennis rackets. Mosquitos now are much faster, smaller, and have more evasive flying patterns.
But...
Malaria can be detected by modern hematology automated analyzers. I'm talking about ordinary hematology analyzers, not the ones specialized for malaria. All hospitals do at least one CBC+DIFF for all patients. If anyone cares to look at the warning flags and scattergrams [1], they could have seen that something's wrong, do a blood smear and confirm malaria in 30 minutes. It is a bit difficult, to be honest. Only a lab doc/tech would know how to interpret a scattergram, and some of the flags are extremely unreliable (not iRBC), but that doesn't mean they can be simply ignored.
Unfortunately, in most labs, doctors who check and validate results, do that from the lab software app, not directly from the analyzer, and - devs, take notes! - most hospital/laboratory software I saw (and I saw many) ignore all flags and graphics send by the analyzers. They just take the numbers and that's it. When doctors look at a report, they don't see flags or scattergrams, just the numbers. Can't even tell if the numbers are reliable or not. And this is how malaria diagnosis, and lots of others, are missed.
[1] https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4418/13/22/3397
Sadly, it's often too late. Looks to be the case here, appears clearly a diagnosis delay. It does not take much for a skilled system to connect "airport worker" and the right lab readings together.
I can't imagine what these people would have gone through. They would have been given the "just a flu" treatment for some days, and then waited many more days for appointments. RIP.
PS: What you've said is pretty eye opening! This would amplify a lot of the diagnosis problems.
AI has the potential to help a lot with diagnosis, but considering that many relevant data don't even enter the system, I have doubts about how effective it could be. On the other hand, I would not trust a cloud AI (or cloud in general) to process my medical data. The temptation to abuse that access for marketing, profiling, insurance prices, etc. would be irresistible.
https://www.epa.gov/mosquitocontrol/aircraft-disinsection
"Benefits of entering a voluntary formal arrangement include:
* disinsection methods are undertaken while passengers are not on the aircraft."
Used to see someone wandering down the aisles with spray cans on arrival - but not on the last several trips to Oz.
https://www.epa.gov/mosquitocontrol/aircraft-disinsection
Not sure where the idea came from that spraying the cabin aisle would penetrate the luggage bins, cargo hold, under the seats, or really anywhere.
2. Risk is convex, so every risk increase by measures not taken is multiplicative, not additive.
The real question must be: does the disinfection do more harm than it provides reduction of risk.
Wait. Is this true? f(x) = x^2 is convex but f(x+d) = f(x) + O(x). Are you saying that human risk assessment is estimated to be exponential?
What kind of disinfectant is used? How is it distributed? Does it do something bad at -80 degrees C? At +80 C? If it freezes, what happens? What if someone loads the wrong thing into the disinfectant bucket? Like fuel? Or oil? Where do we put the switch to isolate the cockpit from the disinfectant? Where does flipping that isolation switch go in the unknown-fume-event checklist?
What if it catches fire? It's not enough to say it can't catch fire, you must assume it will catch fire. The fire suppression system has to be aware of it. What if the fire suppression system erroneously thinks the disinfectant system is on fire? What if it was erroneously thought to be on fire, and then later _actually does catch fire_? How long can we fly with a flaming disinfectant system that someone in Terribadistan filled with kerosene?
You probably have more than one disinfectant module, probably attached to each pack. Is the plane "disinfected" if only one pack is operational? If your disinfectant module fails, does it bring the pack down with it? No? Now we have to certify the packs for both with-and-without disinfectant module operation.
It would still be expensive for next gen too. Having to design an entire system that has never existed before that can operate under aerospace conditions is expensive as hell even before you get into certification. A sibling comment points out all of the design certification issues you need to think about
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.E...
Now, some people are more resistant to some diseases than others. Sickle cell anemia heterozygote humans can live with plasmodium alright.
What surprises me is that someone around an airport in Germany (urban area) actually died of malaria. Malaria causes intervals of very high fever which lead to hospitalization and treatment.
> Im Zusammenhang mit den bereits bekannten sechs Fällen von Malaria tropica bei Personen, die am Flughafen Frankfurt am Main tätig sind, sind zwei Erkrankte verstorben
And a quick search says that this is the most dangerous one. Of course it had to be...
[0]:https://frankfurt.de/de-de/aktuelle-meldung/meldungen/gesund...
I just looked up my test report from years ago and it just says NS1 rapid antigen test and that one doesn't find which of DENV-1(-2, -3, -4) it was.
Luckily we could get vaccinated a year later. If you’ve had it and catch another variant mortality rate jumps to 10%. But usually those variants don’t overlap, it’s region based.
https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Zwei-Tote-durch-Flughafen-Malar...
There was a good story of a Dutchman living in Mali who got malaria a few times (everyone does). It’s manageable with the meds.
Anyway he flies home, then develops symptoms. Goes to hospital and they freak. Full hazmat suits, isolation, doctors visiting from all over because they’d never seen it. Guy ends up dying because they wouldn’t give him the meds, because they didn’t know if it was safe, or what the right thing to do was.
Moral of the story is that for anyone spending time in malaria zones, take the meds home with you. If you get symptomatic, take the meds and maybe not go to hospital in the developed world. Meds I took was “coartem” and an injectable.
Healthy working adults with access to healthcare don't just die of malaria. Two deaths means it's not some unique susceptibility in one individual either.
The more interesting investigation would be how the system let two people die of malaria, not how malaria got there.
Does it? "Have you been near the equator recently?" is a rather common question that GPs ask when you go see them with high fever. Doctors in Germany are absolutely aware of malaria, given how much we like to travel to all those beautiful, but unfortunately malaria-ridden countries.
The only thing, of course, is: That question wouldn't have helped here. However, this[0] source says airport staff are made aware of the possibility of contracting malaria and are told to watch out for symptoms.
[0]: https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/regional/hessen/malaria-am-...
In the US it's a few thousand dollars for the treatment.
Call around and ask "What is your self cash pay cost?".
Most people don't know to ask that and if you don't speak the magic phrase then you get billed at the rate the office would normally charge insurance. Not all places have self pay discounts.
Some states have special programs for hospitals but they vary wildly by state and you have to know how to navigate that particular program and be very patient. Some are need based so if you are above a pretty low income threshold you won't qualify.
There are definitely ways to rack up big bills fast, though, just by being unlucky.
I’ve never heard of this. Private practice? If so, count your blessings until they get hoovered up by PE and quadruple their prices overnight.
So they exit the whole system and go to a direct "you pay me monthly for access" model. Hundred bucks a person or so per month, factor a ~25% discount for families. Doc gets to keep a cap on the limit of incoming patients to manage their own day pretty nicely while getting a recurring stream of cash paid direct to him.
Even better if your wife's also a doctor (hey, healthcare partners run together a lot!), you just band together, see 5-600 patients a month as a couple, and pull in a decent $million or so on a fairly light workload and selling extra things like GLP-1s and wellness programs for a year's work. Triple-points if you're doing this in rural America - that million might not be a lot to the big techies out there, but that's big bucks that go far in some really nice places tucked away in the trees and forests.
You still need insurance for the rest of the 'stuff' they don't do, but some of these DPCs are doing everything they can in house (like prescribing and dispensing generics at the office directly in a single visit to lower your extra out of pocket costs).
If you're on a high deductible healthcare plan with an HSA and an employer contributing healthily into it, these direct-patient-care clinics may be an attractive option if you're reasonably healthy and young.
My United Healthcare plan limits my out of pocket expenses to $2,000 per year. Like most Americans, "United Healthcare" is just the company that does the billing and adjudication. My Employer sets policy and pays for treatment at the end of the day.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria
One question that gets asked is "have you traveled to another country?" When the answer is "no", then doctors no longer consider diseases that exist in other countries. So that is why they did not understand the parasitic infection until it was too late.
Some of the early symptoms resemble a bad cold.
The parasite that causes malaria (literally "bad air") can only survive in certain species of mosquitos. Those skeeters don't live in Germany. They used to live in the state I live in, but they were exterminated back in the 1950s & 1960s (thanks DDT!). And people from West Africa were naturally/genetically resistant, which was why slaves from that region were preferred over every other race in the southern US where malaria existed until the 1950s & 1960s. If you have 0 copies of the gene then you usually die (of malaria) before puberty. If you have 2 copies of the gene, then you die from sickle cell anemia (usually by your teen years). If you have 1 copy of that gene (another commenter used the term "heterozygote") then the parasite can't live in some of your red blood cells, so you survive to have children.
Germany never had it, and reported being malaria free in 1964. America, in 1970.
https://www.who.int/teams/global-malaria-programme/eliminati...
It's easy to test for malaria, if you actually think to test for malaria. In the 90s, we used to hear wild stories from people we knew who would come down with malaria shortly after returning to the USA and doctors and nurses would freak out not knowing what to do about it, and the medication would be expensive to obtain, so the conventional wisdom was also to remember to take a few pills with you on the plane back to the USA!
It's sad but unsurprising that no one was able to treat these German workers in time. When I was a child, there was already talk of strains developing resistance, and this has gotten worse in the 21st century, and the airport workers caught the most deadly strain:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/27/malaria-outbre...
Literally every pharmacy over here sells treatment against malaria – many have it in stock and even if they don't, they'll be able to get it for you within a few hours. Every major city (certainly every city with an airport where you could catch airport malaria) has a hospital with a department specifically for infectious and tropical diseases, where they'll happily take care of you. GPs ask you if you've been to the equator lately if you go see them with high fever. I'm not sure how a country where malaria is not common at all would be able to do any better?
Also, as I mentioned in another comment, airport staff are instructed to watch out for malaria symptoms precisely because airport malaria is a thing.
Something definitely went wrong here but from afar it surely doesn't look like a healthcare failure to me. Maybe the deceased stayed home, thinking they had caught a cold and would be able to sit it out?
or 2km away: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4318208/
"It [the Robert Koch Institute] said laboratory tests to determine the source of the infections were not expected to be available for several weeks. [...] The [Robert Koch] institute said malaria in Germany almost exclusively affects long-haul travellers who were infected in malaria-endemic areas, and that malaria transmitted within a German airport is rare. 'The lack of a travel history can lead to a delayed diagnosis. A delayed diagnosis increases the risk of a severe course of the diseases,' the institute said in its epidemiological bulletin."
Note that this about DNA tests & analysis to determine the origin of the malaria/the mosquitos, not about simple tests for the disease.
Likely this happened because they have no expertise and didn’t know what to do.
Imagine if you showed up in a hospital in the us with a sting from some super intense scorpion that only exists is some obscure part of the world. They’ll try to help, but likely can’t do much.
I meant with no treatment it is often fatal. Almost certainly do for kids and elderly with no treatment.
Usually, it is through shipping containers where unwanted insects cross borders. That's how murder hornets and flying cockroaches got into the US.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Tropical_Institute
10% of all people who were on it now have permanent psychosis.
Oh yeah.
The proper solution is a thick layer of petroleum jelly over your skin. The larva has to come up to breathe eventually (~hours). Use tweezers and grab it. Gross, but perfectly safe.
A concerted effort to treat cases and reduce habitat can prevent it, too. The US wiped it out in the 50s; new cases largely come from travel.
No human cases means no reservoir for the spring's new mosquitos to draw from. It's why Florida's safe these days, despite the climate.
It's unlikely to become a problem again because the climate is not optimal and these countries are wealthy, have advanced healthcare systems, and can spray everything with DDT again if they feel like doing it.
You'd think that, but anecdotally there was much fewer this year in Germany than previous years.
At least where I live most of the places where they'd have usually spawned (wetlands) have dried up and shrunk considerably. So really the hot weather made it a worse year for mosquitos.
I’m not sure the USA would have been successful eradicating malaria without using DDT or something similar.
DDT caused the Bald Eagle population to drop from about 400,000 birds to just 47 nesting pairs.
https://youtu.be/-UiCSvQvVys
Plenty more out there.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8277918/
It is unlikely that malaria will establish itself, given that it gets cold and inhospitable to malaria-carrying mosquitos in Northern Europe. However, it is one of many things that could potentially be frog-boiled into existence in northern latitudes as a result of climate change.
I live in an area where mosquitos were unbearable this year. You couldn’t do outdoor activities without a mosquito net. It’s bad enough but I don’t want to imagine what it would be like if the threat of mosquito-borne illness was layered on.